Okay, so no 5:4... How about letterbox display?

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I see that the problem ticket regarding no support for 5:4 monitors (1280x1024) has been marked "Not a Problem" - okay, I understand. This is conjecture since it hasn't been explained exactly why, but my guess is it would cause problems regarding Field-of-View and such, which uneven the playing field.

The current behaviour of running in fullscreen with the lower resolution, 1280x960, stretches the window to fit. On its own, this is not desirable, but to make matters worse this causes odd banding, or random bars to appear on screen as the refresh rate goes wonky.

Please add the option to let 5:4 users set their game to 'letterbox mode' so the game isn't stretched. The image is an example of what I mean.

Minutia

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  • trying to find some middle ground.

Posted 4 years ago

Minutia

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I'm going to update this and point out that the most popular resolution used by players who participate in the Steam Hardware Surveys is 1280x1024. Over 20% of people do so.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Hope to hear from the devs.

Helter

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You should actually be able to set this up yourself from within your video card drivers. I'm not sure how it works with the ATI drivers, but with my 8800GTS, I can go into the NVIDIA Control Panel and there's an option under "Adjust desktop size and position" marked "Use NVIDIA scaling with fixed-aspect ratio". Choosing 1280x960 on a 1280x1024 native monitor with this enabled will produce the letterboxing you describe.

Minutia

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Prior to this computer I'd always used nVidia, but I'm afraid I went with ATI for this one. Can anyone offer a little more help for this temporary workaround? I'm running a 5770.

Ricky

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This option doesn't appear to be in the latest beta forceware, or supported by my monitor (LG1730S). The adjust desktop size and position contains only a translation tool. I also have an 8800GTS.

Minutia

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Helter, thank you for trying to work this out for me. I'm having no luck with this, though (see image). Next step is to figure out why this is greyed out. I'll keep working on it.

I still maintain that not even one hundred people with this problem will find this post or our solution, so I think it should be a focus for the developers. Unless it's more complicated to implement than I think it is.

Update: Appears that ATI's CCC simply doesn't do this function within the Windows 7 environment. Frustrating.

Helter

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I find it odd that ATI's drivers would disable this under Windows 7, but it appears that you're correct.

It seems there is a solution, however.

Minutia

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Just tried that to no luck. I wonder what's going on. Again, thank you sincerely for going way beyond the call of duty here, it's very selfless of you.

I'm next going to guess that my LCD monitor is at fault here. But I know if I tell you the model number, you'll fix it for me and I'll feel like a jerk for not doing it myself, so please rest assured that I will get this working if it is possible. :P

Edit: Next plan is to plug a newer monitor in to see if it allows me to then perform the above step. Not tonight. Will update tomorrow.

Helter

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I've already got the model number, it's in the screenshot you posted. :p

Not that it really helps all that much, the only things I can suggest on the monitor end are making sure your monitor is connected to the video card via a DVI cable rather than VGA (the screenshot seems to indicate that it is, so no worries there), and maybe checking to see if your monitor has any built-in scaling options (my Dell does, but I know a lot out there don't). I don't think it's a monitor-specific issue, though, as there seem to be a lot of people with the same problem.

Well, I guess there is one other option, which is to buy a new monitor. Newegg's got 20" 1680x1050 LCDs for as little as $120 these days. You could even keep your old one around to use as a secondary display.

Anyway, it's an option.

Minutia

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>>already got the model number
Ugh! Foiled again!

>>DVI
Yup.

>>Newegg's got 20" 1680x1050 LCDs for as little as $120 these days. You could even keep your old one around to use as a secondary display.
This is exactly the plan in a couple months, but those monitors are cheap because they are TN panels. I'm going for a 24" IPS. You can read about the differences here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD

Hope the devs can appreciate that I'm seriously considering dropping 600$ on a hardware upgrade to play the game the way it was meant to be.

My eye's on this one, if you're curious: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product...

Helter

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Ha, I'm well aware of the differences in panel technology. I'm currently using a Dell 2001FP (S-IPS) that I've had since 2004 simply because everything I've looked at to replace it has worse color reproduction or is way too expensive. I'll join the widescreen club one of these days...

Anyway, hope you get it worked out. Even if your monitor doesn't support fixed-aspect ratio scaling, if it has an option to disable scaling completely just try using that. Assuming you can do that, you should be golden with any 1280 horizontal resolution.

FM_Mustang

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First big thanks to Helter for helping out! "Letterbox" option is possible of course and probably the best way to solve 1.25 aspect ratio problem, but just right now it is not high priority for us as there is many more important fixes and additions on the pipeline as we speak. But this idea is certainly noted by us and at some we'll take a serious look at this too.

Minutia

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Thank you! Glad to have a few words on it.

nn

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I have a related problem - running 1200x1600 portrait, game does not let me run a 1200x900 window, and does not support fullscreen.